Is a frozen embryo a human life?

[Vercingetorix]

Somewhat, the difference is that the embryo isn't injured.

Or developed which makes it different than a born human. It is still alive as you previously noted and early stage development means it has different properties.

[SatansSon666]

Or developed which makes it different than a born human. It is still alive as you previously noted and early stage development means it has different properties.

It is a living human organism.
So is the one in the lab.
What's the difference?

[Vercingetorix]

It is a living human organism.
So is the one in the lab.
What's the difference?

Nothing except development.

[SatansSon666]

Nothing except development.

The devopment is the same in the lab and the uterus.
The only difference is the woman can change her mind about the lab baby and not the uterus baby according to pro-lifers.
What is different in regards to embryonic development?

[Vercingetorix]

The devopment is the same in the lab and the uterus.
The only difference is the woman can change her mind about the lab baby and not the uterus baby according to pro-lifers.
What is different in regards to embryonic development?

I think there is the rub. A woman with a child in utero. Shouldnt be making a decision to killl the baby. Too many alternatives to avoid that condition. Since the lab babies are intended to be used for a birth they are not being murdered for convenience.

[SatansSon666]

I think there is the rub. A woman with a child in utero. Shouldnt be making a decision to killl the baby. Too many alternatives to avoid that condition. Since the lab babies are intended to be used for a birth they are not being murdered for convenience.

They are being murdered for convenience though.
For whatever reason the woman decides not to have the procedure done.
It is also convenient for her not to have to carry the less viable embryos that were created once a viable pregnancy is confirmed in the uterus.
It would also be convenient to be able to get rid of the embryo that was implanted if she so chooses and she should be able to make that choice.

[Vercingetorix]

They are being murdered for convenience though.
For whatever reason the woman decides not to have the procedure done.

Which is why medical facilities need to be conservative with their actions.

It is also convenient for her not to have to carry the less viable embryos that were created once a viable pregnancy is confirmed in the uterus.
It would also be convenient to be able to get rid of the embryo that was implanted if she so chooses and she should be able to make that choice.

In the end. You are confirming what is already known...abortion is the right to kill a child that is inconvenient to you. Because like it or not we are a country that is based on Judeo-Christian morality, the position for no excuse child murder is generally frowned upon by all but libertines.

[SatansSon666]

Which is why medical facilities need to be conservative with their actions.



In the end. You are confirming what is already known...abortion is the right to kill a child that is inconvenient to you. Because like it or not we are a country that is based on Judeo-Christian morality, the position for no excuse child murder is generally frowned upon by all but libertines.

There is no judeo-christian morality.
Unless slavery, murder, rape and abortion are morals to you.

[Vercingetorix]

There is no judeo-christian morality.
Unless slavery, murder, rape and abortion are morals to you.

In fact it is. Regardles of whether you like it or not.

[SatansSon666]

In fact it is. Regardles of whether you like it or not.

Well, they need a better set of morals then.

[Vercingetorix]

Well, they need a better set of morals then.

Or....more people need to adhere to them

[SatansSon666]

Or....more people need to adhere to them

Slavery, rape, murder and pedophilia aren't morals anyone should adhere to.

[Vercingetorix]

Slavery, rape, murder and pedophilia aren't morals anyone should adhere to.

Slavery was only very recently decried as a negative. However, something jews and christians generally opposs

Rape, murder and pedophilia are also immoral.

Or did you think that there was some philosophy or religion that could extricate society from these concepts?

[SatansSon666]

Slavery was only very recently decried as a negative. However, something jews and christians generally opposs

Rape, murder and pedophilia are also immoral.

Or did you think that there was some philosophy or religion that could extricate society from these concepts?

None of which are condemned in the judeo-christian literature people like to cite as being the source of their morality.

[Fine Kettle Of Fish]

None of which are condemned in the judeo-christian literature people like to cite as being the source of their morality.

Dude, you're talking about morality with someone who thinks ***** a 14 year old is perfectly fine.